Does the Church Get Modesty Wrong? Dr. Sandra Richter & Noël Tsoukalas

What does the Bible really mean by modesty, and why have Christian conversations about clothing so often produced shame, especially for women and teenage girls? Dr. Sandra Richter is a renown biblical scholar, author, and professor of Old Testament at Westmont College. The 2nd edition of her killer book, The Epic of Eden, releases in November 2026. Sandy is also a faithful mom, and one of her daughters, Noël Tsoukalas, joins us in this conversation about modesty. Noël is a Pop singer-songwriter and worship leader. She made a name for herself on Season 21 of American Idol, where she received a golden ticket and three “yeses” from celebrity judges Katy Perry, Lionel Richie, and Luke Bryan. Check out her music on Spotify! 00:00:00 “Your Outfit Is Causing My Husband to Stumble” 00:06:55 Sandy & Noel on Modesty and Purity Culture 00:12:50 How the Church Has Mishandled Modesty 00:18:10 Sandy’s Experience with Christian Dress Codes 00:21:26 When Modesty Culture Makes Girls’ Bodies “Public Property” 00:27:21 The Billy Graham Rule and Women in Church Leadership 00:32:21 What Does Biblical Modesty Actually Look Like? 00:36:18 Body Shaming and Modesty in the Church 00:38:26 Teaching Girls to…