Navy SEAL: “Not Killing People Is Hard” - DJ Shipley - #1112

Jun 18, 2026 · 3h 00m

DJ Shipley is a retired Navy SEAL and former DEVGRU operator. What's life like after the Navy SEALs? After years of operating at the highest level, many veterans face a challenge they never expected: returning to normal life. When the adrenaline, purpose, and brotherhood disappear overnight, how do you find your footing again? Expect to learn what the hardest part about leaving military life behind is, why it’s so hard to turn off trained military hyper-vigilance, how DJ would end the war in Iran fast, the story of DJ’s suicide attempt and his path to redemption, how DMT saved DJ’s life, why divorce is just the cost of doing business as a Navy SEAL and much more… Sponsors: See discounts for all the products I use and recommend: ⁠⁠https://chriswillx.com/deals⁠⁠ Get a Free Sample Pack of LMNT’s most popular flavours with your first purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom Get up to 20% off Timeline powered by Mitopure (now at a lower price) at https://timeline.com/modernwisdom Get up to 70% off during Gymshark's Summer Sale at ⁠https://gym.sh/modernwisdom⁠ (use code MODERNWISDOM10) Get the brand new Whoop 5.0 and your first month for free at https://join.whoop.com/modernwisdom…

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